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PDA and Aortic Stenosis?

Sonopath Forum

PDA and Aortic Stenosis?

– 5 month old MN Shephard x with history of a heart murmur since rescued; continuous murmur on ausculatation otherwise asymptomatic for heart disease

– echo consistent with a PDA, LV dilation in diastole and systole; LA normal to midly enlarged

– I am also getting an increased aortic max velocity and AI

I am wondering is this is indicating mild aortic stenosis or is this somehow related to the PDA? This one is being referred to a cardiologist.

– 5 month old MN Shephard x with history of a heart murmur since rescued; continuous murmur on ausculatation otherwise asymptomatic for heart disease

– echo consistent with a PDA, LV dilation in diastole and systole; LA normal to midly enlarged

– I am also getting an increased aortic max velocity and AI

I am wondering is this is indicating mild aortic stenosis or is this somehow related to the PDA? This one is being referred to a cardiologist.

Comments

Peter

hi!
Basically, an increased

hi!

Basically, an increased vmax across the LVOT is typical of a PDA with left ventricular volume overload (hemodynamic significance). This is because the increased left ventricular volume has to leave the heart via a LVOT and aortic valve of normal size – consequently, the vmax has to increase. This is a so-called pseudo-stenosis. Or the other way around: If you see a PDA with volume overload and an increase in aortic vmax, the PDA is likely a large one.

If you want to differentiate pseudo-stenosis from real stenosis you need to consider the following points:

.) Is there a pathophysiology that could explain the pseudo-stenosis?

.) Is there a visible stenosis?

.) Put the PW- sample-gate below the AV then above the AV. If the local difference in peak velocity exceeds 0.5 m/s then a true stenosis is likely.

The aortic regurigation is not typical of a PDA or pseudo-stenosis. This needs further evaluation (dysplasia?, additional VSD? (inflammation?), some contributing SAS).

 

Peter

Pankatz

Thank-you Peter! Good to know

Thank-you Peter! Good to know and a good one to go see a cardiologist.

Jacquie