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Biopsy and FNA

Is there a reason why most of the images show a biopsy or FNA from the caudal aspect of the probe? Can you list the advantages or is this a matter of preference. 

Is there a reason why most of the images show a biopsy or FNA from the caudal aspect of the probe? Can you list the advantages or is this a matter of preference. 

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EL

 
 
Good question randy its

 
 

Good question randy its just a preference. I am right handed and I like to see the needle come into the screen at the upper rioght 1 o’clock position. The probe marker is pointing to the head of the patient and the GE label on my machine will be to the left as I guide my needle along the right side of the probe, opposite the probe marker. I could rotate the probe 180 degrees and come in along the marker and the GE label but I like to keep the orientation the same way as when I scan so I come in from the right of the probe with the label toward the head. Others come in the left side of the screen but my brain doesn’t like that lol:)

 

 

 
EL

 
 
Good question randy its

 
 

Good question randy its just a preference. I am right handed and I like to see the needle come into the screen at the upper rioght 1 o’clock position. The probe marker is pointing to the head of the patient and the GE label on my machine will be to the left as I guide my needle along the right side of the probe, opposite the probe marker. I could rotate the probe 180 degrees and come in along the marker and the GE label but I like to keep the orientation the same way as when I scan so I come in from the right of the probe with the label toward the head. Others come in the left side of the screen but my brain doesn’t like that lol:)

 

 

 
randyhermandvm

Thanks Eric. Makes perfect

Thanks Eric. Makes perfect sense. I am right handed – so I think I will try it your way.

A follow up question. Can you tell me what sort of needles you use for FNA and then core biopsies. I would appreciate the brand of the needles and the length you stock.

randyhermandvm

Thanks Eric. Makes perfect

Thanks Eric. Makes perfect sense. I am right handed – so I think I will try it your way.

A follow up question. Can you tell me what sort of needles you use for FNA and then core biopsies. I would appreciate the brand of the needles and the length you stock.

EL

 
 
FNA woodpecker technique

 
 

FNA woodpecker technique 25g for spleen and lipidotic liver, 22 g for everythign else.

see my youtube on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–lNj-7MUG4

Core bx I use the springloaded monopty by Bard http://sonopath.com/resources/cool-ultrasound-gear/what-do-we-use-obtaining-ultrasound-guided-biopsies

18 g 2.2 cm cut for dogs < 20# 1.2 cm cut for cats, 16g for 20-50# and 14 g for > 50# but depends on the tissue.

Fragile mushy livers I go higher on the gauge toward 18, cah and fibrotic livers I go lower toward 14 as scars dont bleed. Lower gauge for LN….”Gauge” your battles 🙂

 

core bx and lower gauge for more structural pathology (CAH, GN, nephrosis. lymphadenitis vs lymphoma) higher gauge or fna for cellular pathology  (lsa, mct carcinoma)

 
EL

 
 
FNA woodpecker technique

 
 

FNA woodpecker technique 25g for spleen and lipidotic liver, 22 g for everythign else.

see my youtube on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–lNj-7MUG4

Core bx I use the springloaded monopty by Bard http://sonopath.com/resources/cool-ultrasound-gear/what-do-we-use-obtaining-ultrasound-guided-biopsies

18 g 2.2 cm cut for dogs < 20# 1.2 cm cut for cats, 16g for 20-50# and 14 g for > 50# but depends on the tissue.

Fragile mushy livers I go higher on the gauge toward 18, cah and fibrotic livers I go lower toward 14 as scars dont bleed. Lower gauge for LN….”Gauge” your battles 🙂

 

core bx and lower gauge for more structural pathology (CAH, GN, nephrosis. lymphadenitis vs lymphoma) higher gauge or fna for cellular pathology  (lsa, mct carcinoma)

 
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