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PDA?

Hello,

I need Your help in cardiology. This is a one year old female pincher, having a loud heart murmur. No any other symptom is present.

I made an echo, and a saw a left sided volume overload. No mitral reg. With color doppler i did not see ASD or VSD.

The flow in a. pulmonalis is turbulent, and i think i saw the PDA..just could not measure the velocity of tha flow. Do You also think this is PDA?

Thanks Your help!

Rita Mietsch

Hello,

I need Your help in cardiology. This is a one year old female pincher, having a loud heart murmur. No any other symptom is present.

I made an echo, and a saw a left sided volume overload. No mitral reg. With color doppler i did not see ASD or VSD.

The flow in a. pulmonalis is turbulent, and i think i saw the PDA..just could not measure the velocity of tha flow. Do You also think this is PDA?

Thanks Your help!

Rita Mietsch

Comments

randyhermandvm

May 7, 2015 at 3:50 am -

Here is a link to a L to R

Here is a link to a L to R PDA that is posted under Dr Peter Modler

http://sonopath.com/about/specialists/peter-modler/case-study-10

Does the dog have a classical “Machinery” murmur?

Looks like a PDA to me- but I have never personally diagnosed one.

Not being critical- but how come you could not get spectral doppler?

randyhermandvm

May 7, 2015 at 3:50 am -

Here is a link to a L to R

Here is a link to a L to R PDA that is posted under Dr Peter Modler

http://sonopath.com/about/specialists/peter-modler/case-study-10

Does the dog have a classical “Machinery” murmur?

Looks like a PDA to me- but I have never personally diagnosed one.

Not being critical- but how come you could not get spectral doppler?

pacsit

May 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm -

Thank You!
Because this
Thank You!
Because this machine has only pwd on it:(
I have sent the dog to a cardiology center.
The flow was too high and could not measure it with pwd.
I have not diagnosed either yet-soo i am not sure. I hope they will call me back with the results:)

pacsit

May 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm -

May 8, 2015 at 6:11 am -

Its either a PDA or a bad

Its either a PDA or a bad pulmonic stenosis but I lean toward PDA. You would need CW over that turbulent flow in the deep PA to tell the difference.

Here are some more in the basic search

http://sonopath.com/members/case-studies/search?text=pda&species=All

and then look at the pulmonic stenosis cases:

http://sonopath.com/members/case-studies/search?text=pulmonic+stenosis&species=All

May 8, 2015 at 6:11 am -

Its either a PDA or a bad

Its either a PDA or a bad pulmonic stenosis but I lean toward PDA. You would need CW over that turbulent flow in the deep PA to tell the difference.

Here are some more in the basic search

http://sonopath.com/members/case-studies/search?text=pda&species=All

and then look at the pulmonic stenosis cases:

http://sonopath.com/members/case-studies/search?text=pulmonic+stenosis&species=All

pacsit

May 8, 2015 at 7:25 am -

Thank You!
Thank You!

pacsit

May 8, 2015 at 7:25 am -

Thank You!
Thank You!