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Sonopath Forum

This is a 9 year old Schnautzer F/S with very high liver enzymes. We are suspecting an inflamatory hepatopathy with possible partial obstruction of CBD. CBD is 0.6 cm . Unfortunatelly owner declined biopsy. We are monitoring daily the CBD/GB to asess response to Tx.

My questions:

1. Is the duodenal-pyloric junction normal? I don’t see fluid moving from stomach into duodenum when stomach contracts? Also the proximal duodenum lumen seems thin….?

2.Also can’t see the duodenal papilla ( in other views)

 

3. Should I be concerned that this is an infiltrative mural disease that affects pylorus and prox duodenum as well as duodenal papilla ?

 

Thank you,

Calin

 

Comments

EL

Big CBD look for striucture

Big CBD look for striucture or cbd neoplasia or stone beterrn the dfilation and the d-pap as > 0.5 cm is big in any book.

The layering is visible in the duodenum and there is movement so neoplastic criteria (layering loss, lac of peristalsis, excessive thickness) is not met for the GI here. Hypertrophic Pyloric Myopathy criteria is not completely present either. However there is some echogenic remodeling of the mucosal layer which may be related to chronic disease/fibrosis and such and maybe secondary pyloric hypertrophy. Without manual assessment or the pylorus at surgery tough to tell. Empirically this is what i do with these cases treating the treatable and dealing with delayed outflow assuming that sampling is not an option:

 

Helicobacter/Gastritis protocol

A clinical trial of Zithromax (Dogs: 5-10 mg/kg p.o. q24h. May increase dosing interval to q48h after 3-5 days of treatment), Metronidazole (10-20 mg/kg po bid) , Pepcid ( 0.5-1 mg/kg sid) and Sucralfate (0.5-2 g/dog PO) or Omeprazole (1 mg/kg po sid) over the next 3 weeks along with a novel-protein or hydrolyzed diet with slurry feeding bid/tid. over the next 2-4 days and then increase to canned diet bid. Dry food should be avoided over the next 4 weeks. A recheck sonogram to assess GI improvement or progression would be ideal in 4 weeks. Consider metaclopramide as well if needed as long as pancreatitis is not an issue.

vetecho

Thank you.Not pancreatitis

Thank you.Not pancreatitis but sorry I have to ask: why not metoclop in pancreatitis?

EL

Big CBD look for striucture

Big CBD look for striucture or cbd neoplasia or stone beterrn the dfilation and the d-pap as > 0.5 cm is big in any book.

The layering is visible in the duodenum and there is movement so neoplastic criteria (layering loss, lac of peristalsis, excessive thickness) is not met for the GI here. Hypertrophic Pyloric Myopathy criteria is not completely present either. However there is some echogenic remodeling of the mucosal layer which may be related to chronic disease/fibrosis and such and maybe secondary pyloric hypertrophy. Without manual assessment or the pylorus at surgery tough to tell. Empirically this is what i do with these cases treating the treatable and dealing with delayed outflow assuming that sampling is not an option:

 

Helicobacter/Gastritis protocol

A clinical trial of Zithromax (Dogs: 5-10 mg/kg p.o. q24h. May increase dosing interval to q48h after 3-5 days of treatment), Metronidazole (10-20 mg/kg po bid) , Pepcid ( 0.5-1 mg/kg sid) and Sucralfate (0.5-2 g/dog PO) or Omeprazole (1 mg/kg po sid) over the next 3 weeks along with a novel-protein or hydrolyzed diet with slurry feeding bid/tid. over the next 2-4 days and then increase to canned diet bid. Dry food should be avoided over the next 4 weeks. A recheck sonogram to assess GI improvement or progression would be ideal in 4 weeks. Consider metaclopramide as well if needed as long as pancreatitis is not an issue.

vetecho

Thank you.Not pancreatitis

Thank you.Not pancreatitis but sorry I have to ask: why not metoclop in pancreatitis?

EL

Metaclopramide is technically

Metaclopramide is technically contraindicated in pancreatitis… vascular issue I think.

vetecho

good to know.Thanks

good to know.Thanks

EL

Metaclopramide is technically

Metaclopramide is technically contraindicated in pancreatitis… vascular issue I think.

vetecho

good to know.Thanks

good to know.Thanks

rlobetti

Metoclopramide may decrease

Metoclopramide may decrease blood flow to the pancreas via its antidopaminergic effect, but this has never been substantiated. Cerenia seems a better drug to control the vomiting than metaclopramide.

You mentioned that the owners declined biopsy – what about a FNA of the liver and pylorous?

rlobetti

Metoclopramide may decrease

Metoclopramide may decrease blood flow to the pancreas via its antidopaminergic effect, but this has never been substantiated. Cerenia seems a better drug to control the vomiting than metaclopramide.

You mentioned that the owners declined biopsy – what about a FNA of the liver and pylorous?

vetecho

Unfortunatelly Emma didn t

Unfortunatelly Emma didn t respond to treatment and was euthanized . We took biopsies from the pylorus and duodenum which was abnormal. waiting for histopath results. 

Thank you for following up on this case

Calin

vetecho

Unfortunatelly Emma didn t

Unfortunatelly Emma didn t respond to treatment and was euthanized . We took biopsies from the pylorus and duodenum which was abnormal. waiting for histopath results. 

Thank you for following up on this case

Calin

rlobetti

Please post the results when

Please post the results when you get them. 

rlobetti

Please post the results when

Please post the results when you get them. 

vetecho

will do

will do

vetecho

will do

will do