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Canine echo using normal probe

Sonopath Forum

Canine echo using normal probe

Hi
I just finished doing big 115 pound St. Bernard echo. I used the normal echo probe. I forgot that I had a larger echo probe after the fact. Is it a problem that I didn’t use the larger probe?

Hi
I just finished doing big 115 pound St. Bernard echo. I used the normal echo probe. I forgot that I had a larger echo probe after the fact. Is it a problem that I didn’t use the larger probe?

Comments

rlobetti

As long as you the necessary

As long as you the necessary images and measurements, it should not be a problem.

rlobetti

As long as you the necessary

As long as you the necessary images and measurements, it should not be a problem.

marty

…I have found that the
…I have found that the doppler is much better and more reliable with the large echo probe. So on my machine I may have missed something like TR and pulmonary hypertension with the smaller echo probe. Had this exact scenario this week – only conformed the moderate PHT in a small dog with the large echo probe. The small probe was only.reading mild PHT.

marty

…I have found that the
…I have found that the doppler is much better and more reliable with the large echo probe. So on my machine I may have missed something like TR and pulmonary hypertension with the smaller echo probe. Had this exact scenario this week – only conformed the moderate PHT in a small dog with the large echo probe. The small probe was only.reading mild PHT.

EL

 
 
The higher the Mhz probe

 
 

The higher the Mhz probe the better the image quality and less penetration of depth. Lower the MHz the poorer the image quality but higher penetration and more room for doppler jets to be adequately estimated such as an MR between 5-6.5 m/sec. So If you get pretty images that get the whole heart on 8 mHz then great. But when going to the higher veloicity jets you will need the lower mHz probe to adequately measure thand quantify the velocity. But if CW doppler is needed or even pw at deep spots like the AV in Apical then the power to reach solid doppler signals may be compromised with the higher mhz probe and render the velocity lower than it really is. The 6s does this on the logic e for example as it underestinates MR jets in a 40# dog for example. I’ve tested it against the 3 s and the difference can be 10-60 m/sec. Then larger dogs you need the 3s. So for the logic e for example prettiest in succession 8c then 6s then 3s. Or do the whole study in a small dog on the 6s. But anythign over 40#  I do an echo on the 3s as the image ios usually solid but I have no doppler worries.

 
EL

 
 
The higher the Mhz probe

 
 

The higher the Mhz probe the better the image quality and less penetration of depth. Lower the MHz the poorer the image quality but higher penetration and more room for doppler jets to be adequately estimated such as an MR between 5-6.5 m/sec. So If you get pretty images that get the whole heart on 8 mHz then great. But when going to the higher veloicity jets you will need the lower mHz probe to adequately measure thand quantify the velocity. But if CW doppler is needed or even pw at deep spots like the AV in Apical then the power to reach solid doppler signals may be compromised with the higher mhz probe and render the velocity lower than it really is. The 6s does this on the logic e for example as it underestinates MR jets in a 40# dog for example. I’ve tested it against the 3 s and the difference can be 10-60 m/sec. Then larger dogs you need the 3s. So for the logic e for example prettiest in succession 8c then 6s then 3s. Or do the whole study in a small dog on the 6s. But anythign over 40#  I do an echo on the 3s as the image ios usually solid but I have no doppler worries.