I recently bought a used Logiq E Vet. I am slowly figuring out how to optimize the images although they’re not completely where I want them. I really like the Help menu it comes with to figure out how to do things.
I recently bought a used Logiq E Vet. I am slowly figuring out how to optimize the images although they’re not completely where I want them. I really like the Help menu it comes with to figure out how to do things.
But my eyes glaze over when it comes to computer language. How do you handle transferring your images off the machine for permanent storage? What is your process to archive images? I am a solo mobile sonographer with a relatively low volume. Previously, I would store my images on the hard drive of my computer and back that up to an Apple Time Capsule. The machine is configured with the EZ move button that is supposed to make it easy but I still don’t understand the process and don’t want to inadvertently erase images I haven’t backed up yet.
Thanks,
Suzanne
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Hi Susanne, I have been
Hi Susanne, I have been in and out of this for 13 years now with my personal archive. First thing
1) Do you want to ever publish anything or contribute to publishing. If so you will need stills in tiff which must come from dicom to get 300 dpi quality. Therefore you save in dicom. Or you just work from dicom and use a dicom server. Osirix for mac is what we use as its the best and free if low volume costs about $400 year for license if you need 64 bit which sounds like you dont. Have to have a mac for this but I would argue if you are doing imaging once you go mac you will never go back because it saves tons of time over a day, month, year. From dicom you have all the flexibility to save anything in any format for use on any computer from osirix. go to http://www.osirix-viewer.com/
2) If you want to archive in jpeg avi or other non dicom format using the quicksave then you can just save to your mac or pc or better yet just get a $70 1 tb western digital external hard drive and reformat it and the logic e will read it like a thumb drive but you have to remove the software on the ext hd which is easy. If on a mac, plug the ext drive in and use disc utility and erase it all. This is the most economical way to back up. and you can plug in the ext drive to your logic e and view the case form there and work wiht it as if it were in your logic e hard drive.
3) You can cloud it with any of the companies, cuattro for example, and thats nice because you can pull it down form anywhere if you travel but sounds a bit space age for your current needs but can always go there later.
I personally save both in quicksave (jpeg/avi) and in dicom which is clunky but i have staff that sends this to me as needed but my volume is huge. I am currently looking into cloud storage because of my volume but it can add up quickly on costs and I need all my extensive caseload in one place at all times and accessible no matter where I am in the world.
BTW if you ever need to change the avi video to mp4 or other format i love the movavi converter as it has the codecs in the GE system that other converters cant deal with and you can make anything convert. (http://www.movavi.com).
I hope this helps
If you go to apple or verizon or ATT they are all competing the in cloud wars and may be able to help you customize something but if your volume is small then I would do number 2 because the cloud adds up in costs like your phone bill when calling home on a european trip:)
If you want to stay in the veterinary field and someone that knows dicom and US and DR then cuattro.com would be the place to go as they have a nice cloud system that I vae accessed time to time. My mentor (McGyver Mark Skeels DVM DABVP) built the thing. I think sound is going there but I dont have any experience with their system other than the antech imaging and the darkhorse system but you can check wiht them as well.
Hi Susanne, I have been
Hi Susanne, I have been in and out of this for 13 years now with my personal archive. First thing
1) Do you want to ever publish anything or contribute to publishing. If so you will need stills in tiff which must come from dicom to get 300 dpi quality. Therefore you save in dicom. Or you just work from dicom and use a dicom server. Osirix for mac is what we use as its the best and free if low volume costs about $400 year for license if you need 64 bit which sounds like you dont. Have to have a mac for this but I would argue if you are doing imaging once you go mac you will never go back because it saves tons of time over a day, month, year. From dicom you have all the flexibility to save anything in any format for use on any computer from osirix. go to http://www.osirix-viewer.com/
2) If you want to archive in jpeg avi or other non dicom format using the quicksave then you can just save to your mac or pc or better yet just get a $70 1 tb western digital external hard drive and reformat it and the logic e will read it like a thumb drive but you have to remove the software on the ext hd which is easy. If on a mac, plug the ext drive in and use disc utility and erase it all. This is the most economical way to back up. and you can plug in the ext drive to your logic e and view the case form there and work wiht it as if it were in your logic e hard drive.
3) You can cloud it with any of the companies, cuattro for example, and thats nice because you can pull it down form anywhere if you travel but sounds a bit space age for your current needs but can always go there later.
I personally save both in quicksave (jpeg/avi) and in dicom which is clunky but i have staff that sends this to me as needed but my volume is huge. I am currently looking into cloud storage because of my volume but it can add up quickly on costs and I need all my extensive caseload in one place at all times and accessible no matter where I am in the world.
BTW if you ever need to change the avi video to mp4 or other format i love the movavi converter as it has the codecs in the GE system that other converters cant deal with and you can make anything convert. (http://www.movavi.com).
I hope this helps
If you go to apple or verizon or ATT they are all competing the in cloud wars and may be able to help you customize something but if your volume is small then I would do number 2 because the cloud adds up in costs like your phone bill when calling home on a european trip:)
If you want to stay in the veterinary field and someone that knows dicom and US and DR then cuattro.com would be the place to go as they have a nice cloud system that I vae accessed time to time. My mentor (McGyver Mark Skeels DVM DABVP) built the thing. I think sound is going there but I dont have any experience with their system other than the antech imaging and the darkhorse system but you can check wiht them as well.
re image settings I don’t
re image settings I don’t use complex presets any more and now use the stock ones with minor tweaks. Most people I know that have high caseloads now do the same after years of fiddling and losing time tryoing to get the perfect image every time. it just doesn t happen you want solid images every time and some animals will give you rock star images and other wont at all and you can tweak on those but not on th egeneral preset itself.
I use Uro 5 for abdomen and change the depth and gain a touch for small, med and large. Same deal for cardiac adult and pediatric for large and small depending on the probe i use and then adjust the sweep speed and baseline, prf, to jump the steps in my workflow to be sure I am right in the baseline and prf I know i will need for that MR case or cat heart. So i suggest start form those 4 stock presets and just tweak minor things. The more complex you get with presets the more they wont hold over time or will scan differently patient to patient or put you in preset no man’s land which is frustrating. Image adjustments just keep it simple and spend mental time on getting the dx:)
Thanks. That is very
Thanks. That is very helpful! I would love to have the volume to need some of your more high tech solutions but I am not there yet.
I do have a case that I hope to submit someday for ABVP certification. Is jpeg format acceptable? I am not likely to ever publish in a journal.
Luckily I purchased from an experienced sonographer and I have found his presets very acceptable. I’m stil working on adjusting my eye to the differences in image quality from what I’m used to.
Thanks again!
Suzanne
re image settings I don’t
re image settings I don’t use complex presets any more and now use the stock ones with minor tweaks. Most people I know that have high caseloads now do the same after years of fiddling and losing time tryoing to get the perfect image every time. it just doesn t happen you want solid images every time and some animals will give you rock star images and other wont at all and you can tweak on those but not on th egeneral preset itself.
I use Uro 5 for abdomen and change the depth and gain a touch for small, med and large. Same deal for cardiac adult and pediatric for large and small depending on the probe i use and then adjust the sweep speed and baseline, prf, to jump the steps in my workflow to be sure I am right in the baseline and prf I know i will need for that MR case or cat heart. So i suggest start form those 4 stock presets and just tweak minor things. The more complex you get with presets the more they wont hold over time or will scan differently patient to patient or put you in preset no man’s land which is frustrating. Image adjustments just keep it simple and spend mental time on getting the dx:)
Thanks. That is very
Thanks. That is very helpful! I would love to have the volume to need some of your more high tech solutions but I am not there yet.
I do have a case that I hope to submit someday for ABVP certification. Is jpeg format acceptable? I am not likely to ever publish in a journal.
Luckily I purchased from an experienced sonographer and I have found his presets very acceptable. I’m stil working on adjusting my eye to the differences in image quality from what I’m used to.
Thanks again!
Suzanne
ABVP jpeg will be ok for fine
ABVP jpeg will be ok for fine images but you wont impress anyone unless they go to digital format. I suggest tiff and minimal 300dpi. ABVP loves images in my experience so I suggest you don’t skimp minimally on image quality when doing your papers. Better to err on quality side.
ABVP jpeg will be ok for fine
ABVP jpeg will be ok for fine images but you wont impress anyone unless they go to digital format. I suggest tiff and minimal 300dpi. ABVP loves images in my experience so I suggest you don’t skimp minimally on image quality when doing your papers. Better to err on quality side.